Wednesday, August 21, 2013

Progress Report

Yesterday I attended the County Commissioner's Business Meeting at the Gwinnett Justice and Administration Building. I was relieved to find out it was only 25 minutes long. Find out about opportunities to visit your commissioners here and remember these talking points to stick to.

Afterwards I met with Commissioner Tommy Hunter (District 3) who completely agrees that our property rights are being stomped on regarding the issue of responsibly keeping back yard hens.

Then I met with another commissioner. These are essentially the reasons she gave me as to why Gwinnett County should not rewrite zoning to allow for backyard hens as we conversed:

  1. neighborhoods don't want chickens
  2. chickens cannot be kept inside like dogs
  3. Fulton County has spitting ostriches
  4. A neighborhood in Norcross is overrun with wild chickens
It may seem like I'm being condescending, but make no mistake: the Gwinnett County Commissioners, save Tommy Hunter, are the ones being condescending. In case she mistakenly thought I was uninformed of my rights or unaware of the 14th Amendment, or lacking a portion of my brain, I easily deflected each of these arguments this way:

  1. I'm not advocating for neighborhood chickens. I'm advocating for securing property rights to have chickens on my property, that I pay taxes on, in such a way that does not disturb the rights of the neighbors around me who do not want chickens in their yard. But they don't get to say what I have in my yard that they can't see, hear, or smell. 
  2. Do I look stupid? People do not keep their dogs inside at all times. They walk them around to poop in everyone else's yards. They take them to the park. They keep them in their backyards to bark at every living thing that passes by all day. This argument is ridiculous and, like all the other arguments I've heard against my right as a property owner to keep chickens in my own back yard, doesn't hold a drop of water.
  3. Are you high? (Just kidding, I didn't say that. But I did just laugh and move on.)
  4. That neighborhood is not my problem. It's been overrun with chickens for several years and I guarantee you that if the people that lived there were voters and citizens, the problem would have been dealt with already. Not to mention, the reason the few chickens were initially abandoned there was because of Gwinnett's overly prohibitive zoning against chickens. 
I'm sharing these points so you can see how your conversations and visits with the commissioners are going to go. There isn't a lot of sensible talk that is going to happen, but you should still call, still email, still make appointments with them.

Previous people have tried to communicate with the Commissioners of Gwinnett County and have stopped once they were given these flimsy fickle responses. The Commissioners are pulling things out of their behinds and they don't care because no one has held them accountable or grouped together in any way that was effective until now.

They are going to give you arbitrary and easily debunked reasons why you should not be allowed to have chickens. We must always counter with solid, evidence-based reasons why our personal liberties need to be protected that point to the fact that there is a simple zoning clarification that could be written in that is good for all residents of Gwinnett.

We are not advocating that everyone have chickens.
We are not advocating that people get to disturb the comfort of their neighbors with noisy, smelly chickens.

We are advocating for a zoning clarification that meets the needs of ALL Gwinnett county residents. There is a minority that is being denied it's rights, that is being ignored, blown off, and patronized, in favor of a fickle majority.

And according to the Gwinnett County website, one of the values of the Gwinnett County Commission is:  We believe in honesty, fairness, and respect for all. We believe in stewardship of public resources, protection of the environment, and that all citizens should expect to live and work in a clean and secure community. 


The plan for now is we continue emailing, continue calling, continue trying to get meetings with these Commissioners and we form a group. The fourth Tuesday of every month are open to public requests and we will attend these meetings every month and keep... well, we're going to keep bothering them.

Comment here and let us know how it's going for you as you approach all of the commissioners!

Tuesday, August 13, 2013

Talking Points for Communicating with Gwinnett County

It is important that our voice is unified and intelligent to be effective with our County Commissioners when we speak with them. Please limit yourself to the following talking points. Pick a couple and start emailing! Our Commissioners need to hear from us. They work.for.you. Your taxes pay them...to do what? Limit your freedoms? Impose ridiculous ordinances that allow for large pot bellied pigs but not small hens?

We are choosing email as our method of contact because we have their word in writing and can hold them to it. When you email, do not be nervous. Government officials are people, just like you and me. They have families and car problems and roofs that leak. They probably even have nasty neighbors. Be respectful but firm. 

Email NOW. Get your neighbors to email. Get your friends to email. Call if you have to. And don't forget to end every conversation by asking them when you can expect to hear back from them on the matter. 

Some of the wording below may sound businesslike. That's because politics is business. 


  • This prohibition against me raising chickens in my own yard is unreasonable and unsupportable. It's absurd to require that I have three acres to keep even one chicken on my own property, yet I can keep a pot bellied pig on as little as half an acre. This is unjustifiable and this ordinance needs to be clarified for the reasonable allowance of poultry immediately.
  • People are *already* keeping chickens in Gwinnett County. They are being abused by neighbors who use the presence of the chickens against code as opportunity to manipulate them. (Example: property owner asks neighbor to please keep their dog leashed and off of their property. Neighbor responds by threatening to call code enforcement on property owner for their chickens as a means to "get away with" being careless.) 
  • On that note: The Fourteenth Amendment makes it the job of government officials to protect the rights of the minority from the fickle majority. We should not be held to some arbitrary higher standard because we chose to have chickens instead of yappy dogs or an open pipe Harley. The County Commissioners should serve to make sure that your right to liberty and fair and reasonable use of your own property is not infringed on by whiney neighbors who arbitrarily maliciously don't respect your liberty.
  • Many cities and counties around the country allow for the responsible keeping of backyard hens. These cities and counties do not have chicken problems and are not over run with chickens. Gwinnett County has an overly oppressive chicken ordinance and does have a chicken problem in two neighborhoods. This indicates that an all out forbiddance of chickens is not working. If chickens were reasonably allowed on private property, neighbors could have taken the chickens of these families when they moved, without fear, or other chicken owners nearby could have taken them in. Creating an anti-chicken ordinance is not good for Gwinnett County.

Email addresses of Gwinnett County Commissioners


For your inspiration, below are the emails I sent to each commissioner (Except Tommy Hunter because I had previously been in contact with him and just picked up where I left off.)

Hi Lynette,

I am a new property owner to Gwinnett County and am surprised to hear that the zoning is so outdated as to lump chickens in with cows and bulls, but allows for pot bellied pigs. I'm sure with your experience in working out zoning issues with the Gwinnett County Planning Commission you may have some advice as to how we can clarify this absurd ordinance to allow for the responsible keeping of a few backyard hens. 

I appreciate your time and response and any advice as to how we can quickly get Gwinnett County up to speed on what is becoming a very popular backyard lifestyle that property owners ought to have the right to.

Thanks again!

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Hi John,I am a new property owner to Gwinnett County and am surprised to hear that the zoning is so outdated as to lump chickens in with cows and bulls, but allows for pot bellied pigs. I'm sure with your experience in growing up on a farm you are aware of the vast differences in keeping scores of chickens and roosters and the clean, quiet, and simple practice of keeping a few backyard hens. Not to mention the filth associated with pigs, being as they are allowed on only half an acre.

I appreciate your time and response and any advice as to how we can quickly get Gwinnett County up to speed on what is becoming a very popular backyard lifestyle that property owners ought to have the right to.

Thanks again!
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Good Morning Charlotte!

I am incredibly interested to hear your stance on clarifying the outdated zoning ordinance that allows for pot bellied pigs on only half an acre of land, but prohibits property owners from responsibly keeping a few back yard hens.

I am aware of your feral chicken problem in your district, so I know already that prohibiting chickens is not working for this county. I also know that allowing pot bellied pigs has not caused the county to be over run with pigs.

I can guess where you stand on the issue of having a neighborhood over run with chickens because of an irresponsible person who obviously has no concern, but I'd like to know where you stand on clarifying the zoning ordinance to allow for the responsible keeping of backyard hens. 

I'm looking forward to your response as well as hearing when we can get this issue officially on the docket for Gwinnett County.

Thank you for your time!
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Hi Jace,

I am a new property owner to Gwinnett County and wanting to find out where you stand on clarifying the outdated zoning ordinance which prohibits property owners from keeping backyard hens.

Thank you for your time!
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Now, if you'd like to comment below and let us know who you contacted and what their response was, that would be very helpful for all of us!